“All the kids are talking about Senate parliamentary procedure.”

On this week’s Political Fallout Shelter podcast, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould discuss why defense and veterans advocates should care about the “nuclear” changes in how the Senate handles confirmation votes. The move means quicker action for a number of President Donald Trump’s appointees, but may be mean fewer vacant Pentagon posts in the near future.

The two also discuss Military Times’ recent sit-down with Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg’s address to Congress last week. Finally, they share their favorite military conspiracy theories, following Trump’s claim that windmills can sure cancer.

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Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.

Joe Gould was the senior Pentagon reporter for Defense News, covering the intersection of national security policy, politics and the defense industry. He had previously served as Congress reporter.

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